[Parentsgroup-list] RE:OB/GYN at UHS

Soderland, Sukanya ssoderland at mba2009.hbs.edu
Wed Nov 19 14:51:05 EST 2008


Hi everyone,

I delivered via c-section at the Brigham and had Dr. Olsen.  My primary ob throughout my visits was Dr. Mikaelian who I loved (very responsive, emphathetic and reassuring) although I also met with Dr. Goldman a few times and found him to be quite calm and helpful as well.  I had met with Dr. Olsen once before and found him to be a bit aloof (doesn't really look at you during the visit - is too busy typing away) and found his manner to be quite abrupt and at times abrasive in the hospital.  That being said, he did oversee the resident sewing me up and by all accounts (incl. my husband's - he is a doc too) it was a very clean procedure.  My husband and I were however quite disappointed with the nursing staff at B&W - it maybe because my husband is a doc that they felt we didn't need much help-- as most of them were not very responsive/proactive (e.g., we had to remind them of when I last took a med and I had to ask a bunch of times for help with nursing etc. to not much avail).  Also, we didn't think the nurses ran the nursery well at all.  Our room was across from the nursery and there were several times when the babies would be crying and the nurses would all be sitting around a computer chatting and not looking after the babies.  After 3hrs the first night we didn't keep our daughter in the nursery again.

Hope that helps (although I'm sure everyone's experience is different).
Sukanya


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   1. Re: birth center and book (Melissa Inouye)
   2. Re: birth center and book (Nicole Flores)
   3. Re: OB/GYN at HUHS (Eri Matsutani)
   4. Re: birth center and book (Deborah Freedman Woods)


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Message: 1
Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2008 17:57:56 -0800
From: Melissa Inouye <inouye at fas.harvard.edu>
Subject: Re: [Parentsgroup-list] birth center and book
To: ?milie cappella <emilie.cappella at gmail.com>
Cc: parentsgroup-list at lists.hcs.harvard.edu
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Hi Emilie

I had a wonderful experience at the Cambridge Birth Center in 2006.   =

I ended up delivering in the Cambridge Hospital across the street  =

because I had low amniotic fluid, but the midwives work in the  =

hospital too and they were all wonderful.  Hospital staff honored my  =

preferences (since they work with the midwives all the time they're  =

pretty used to midwife-y people).  It's a practice so you can't  =

really "control" who you get when you deliver, but I really liked  =

Lucia Ma.  (Don't know whether she's still there or not)

Melissa


On Nov 18, 2008, at 11:01 AM, =E9milie cappella wrote:

> Hi,
> Does anyone have an experience at the Cambridge Birth Center that  =

> she would like to share ? I'm due May 2nd and I wish to give birth  =

> there but I'm still registered at the B&W Hospital.
> By the way, I have read and liked "The happiest toddler on the  =

> block" for my fist child and would like to know if "the happiest  =

> baby on the block" is good too and if someone wants to sell his  =

> book to me.
> Thanks !
> Emilie Cappella
>
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Message: 2
Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2008 18:51:35 -0800
From: "Nicole Flores" <nflores at jd10.law.harvard.edu>
Subject: Re: [Parentsgroup-list] birth center and book
To: <joygeren at gmail.com>
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Thank you, Joy, for the information. =


Has anyone else had any experiences (positive or negative) with
delivering at Mount Auburn (particularly with the midwives practices)?

-Nikki

<-----Original Message-----> =

>From: Joy Geren [joygeren at gmail.com]
>Sent: 11/18/2008 3:01:35 PM
>To: emilie.cappella at gmail.com
>Cc: Parentsgroup-list at lists.hcs.harvard.edu
>Subject: Re: [Parentsgroup-list] birth center and book
>
>I had my second at Cambridge Birth Center (had the first with the
midwives at
>Mt. Auburn). This was the ideal place for me and my family. Everyone
was so
>helpful and kind. They handled my pregnancy complications very
professionally
>and offered me the support I needed to stick to a natural birth plan
despite
>them. Everyone gets a free doula for the birth and to help at home
afterwards if
>you wish. I did face a bit of a problem during the birth, I started to
pass out
>when I was fully dialated.. They handled the situation with the calm
and ease of
>an ER staff but in the comfort of a bedroom. My baby never left me
after the
>delivery (no ankle tags or wheely carts needed), big brother came to
see his
>sister as soon as he woke up and our whole family, daddy included,
could all
>cuddle in bed together (siblings and others may attend the birth but I
chose to
>leave my 2 year old at home sleeping). I was home in less than 12 hours
and
>never missed a night of showering with my toddler or tucking him in
bed. I have
>also talked to 2 women who had to be transfered to the hospital when
things
>weren't going normally and both said they were quite pleased with the
transfer
>decision and the care they got at Cambridge hospital. Another perk is
access to
>the free sessions with certified lactation consultants offered 2
mornings a
>week. You can go as often as you need to get nursing help or to just
visit other
>moms who have very young babies. =

> =

>I liked Mt. Auburn and considered it a positive experience but there
are certain
>drawbacks to delivering in a hospital. For me these included catching a
very
>serious bacterial infection usually only contracted in hospitals (I had
a
>completely natural birth but contracted C. difficile and was very ill
for
>weeks). Also my husband and newborn were in the nursery for 3 hours
shortly
>after the birth. My baby was fine but there were others that needed
urgent
>attention so they just held my baby at the nursery while he waited for
the
>routine bathing, etc. I really did not like being alone, had no clue
what was
>happening with my baby and missed some critical bonding time despite
the fact
>that neither he nor I needed any urgent medical care. I loved the
midwives of
>Mt. Auburn but do not like that they have to catch babies in a
hospital, having
>a hosptial next door for emergencies was much better for us. =

> =

>Hope that helps!
>Joy, G7 and mom to Toby 3yrs and Della 6m =

> =

>
>
> =

>On Tue, Nov 18, 2008 at 11:01 AM, milie cappella
<emilie.cappella at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>Hi,
>Does anyone have an experience at the Cambridge Birth Center that she
would like
>to share ? I'm due May 2nd and I wish to give birth there but I'm still
>registered at the B&W Hospital.
>By the way, I have read and liked "The happiest toddler on the block"
for my
>fist child and would like to know if "the happiest baby on the block"
is good
>too and if someone wants to sell his book to me.
>Thanks !
>Emilie Cappella
> =

>
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>
>
>
>
>-- =

>Joy Geren, M.A.
>Doctoral Candidate
>Laboratory for Developmental Studies
>Department of Psychology
>Harvard University =

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Message: 3
Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2008 21:55:46 -0500
From: "Eri Matsutani" <eridaeri at comcast.net>
Subject: Re: [Parentsgroup-list] OB/GYN at HUHS
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I also had Dr. Olson at the delivery for the first baby, and he is very
experienced. Since I came to have 2 more kids after that, I can compare how
skillful he was. He is not so talkative and may seem gruff, but he is very
thoughtful and sincere.

P.S. Michal, I made a mistake to send this mail only to you, sorry. --Eri


----- Original Message -----
From: "Meeta Sharma Gupta" <meeta at eecs.harvard.edu>
To: "Debrah Rud" <debrah_rud at student.hms.harvard.edu>
Cc: "Finnian Mckean Moore Gerety" <fmgerety at fas.harvard.edu>;
<parentsgroup-list at lists.hcs.harvard.edu>
Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2008 12:47 PM
Subject: Re: [Parentsgroup-list] OB/GYN at HUHS


> Hi Finn,
>
> I had Dr. Susan Mikaelian throughout my pregnancy whom we really liked,
> but my son was delivered by Dr. Goldman. I really liked him, he was quite
> reassuring. I had a normal delivery but my progress was quite slow. He
> tried to keep the situation light for me, and so everything went fine.
> I agree it is a personal preference, I think you should meet up with the
> doctors and go by your instinct.
>
> Thanks,
> Meeta
>
>> Manjari (and all),
>>
>> Funny! Yes, certainly personal preference and experiences with the Drs
>> make
>> all the difference.
>>
>> Deb
>>
>>
>>
>> On 11/18/08 12:36 PM, "Manjari C. Miller" <mchatter at fas.harvard.edu>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hey Deb (and Finn),
>>>
>>> Just had to chime in: I ultimately had John Goldman who I loved (calm,
>>> reassuring) and Dr. Olson who I hated (I was in my 7th month, relieved
>>> that everything was going well, said as much to Olson, who responded
>>> that
>>> you never know what might happen and that he had just that morning
>>> attended the stillbirth of a woman who was 7 months pregnant--needless
>>> to
>>> say I was horrified and stressed out). Anyway the point being that an
>>> Ob-gyn is a very personal preference--try all of them before you decide
>>> on
>>> one.
>>>
>>> Best,
>>> Manjari
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, 18 Nov 2008, Debrah Rud wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi Finn,
>>>>
>>>> I agree that Dr. Guzelian is quite capable and has a great bedside
>>>> manner.
>>>> She did not deliver my son, but she was there at the very beginning of
>>>> my
>>>> labor. My son was delivered (9.5lbs, posterior, forceps delivery after
>>>> 2
>>>> hours of pushing) by Dr. Zinner, who is absolutely fantastic, but
>>>> unfortunately she is no longer with the HUHS practice. I also liked Dr.
>>>> Olson, who was my primary OB. He has a very calm and steady manner that
>>>> I
>>>> really appreciated. I did not like Dr. Goldman, can??t say exactly why,
>>>> he
>>>> just seemed a bit condescending ? he has a way of always saying ??we??
>>>> -- ??How
>>>> are we doing today???.  Anyway, personal preference I suppose.
>>>>
>>>> I agree with Meytal and have to say that I really was glad that my son
>>>> was
>>>> born at the Brigham. I labored unmedicated (until the forceps delivery)
>>>> and
>>>> pushed as long as they would let me but my poor ??little?? guy was face
>>>> up and
>>>> stuck against my pelvic bone. While the forceps delivery was really
>>>> difficult for both my son and me, it was better than going for a
>>>> c-section
>>>> after he was lodged in my pelvis. I really felt that the Brigham
>>>> allowed me
>>>> to make my own decisions in terms of laboring naturally and then took
>>>> the
>>>> reigns when it became dangerous, and I really feel that in retrospect
>>>> that I
>>>> would not have been able to push him out without the aid of the
>>>> forceps.
>>>>
>>>> Anyway, good luck to everyone expecting. So exciting!
>>>>
>>>> Debrah
>>>> G6 PhD Program in Virology
>>>> Mother of Jackson (almost 4!)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 11/18/08 11:07 AM, "Meytal Higgins" <budin at fas.harvard.edu> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi Finn,
>>>>>
>>>>> I have an 11 month old boy who was born at Brigham and Womens through
>>>>> HUHS.
>>>>> I
>>>>> spent my entire pregnancy with HUHS, so I have interacted with all the
>>>>> OBs
>>>>> in
>>>>> the practice, if you have specific questions about any of them.  While
>>>>> I
>>>>> didn't have a C section, I didn't have the smoothest delivery, so I
>>>>> know how
>>>>> my OB behaves when things go wrong.  I had a scheduled induction (10
>>>>> days
>>>>> post
>>>>> due date) with my primary OB, Dr. Gail Guzelian, and I highly
>>>>> recommend her.
>>>>> My son had pooped in the womb, which in some cases signals fetal
>>>>> distress,
>>>>> and
>>>>> I really appreciate how Dr. Guzelian handled the delivery, being
>>>>> cautious
>>>>> enough to be safe, yet not over paranoid.  He had a somewhat scary
>>>>> birth
>>>>> (cord
>>>>> wrapped around the neck), and Dr. Guzelian told me that if he doesn't
>>>>> come
>>>>> out
>>>>> by a certain time, she would bring out forceps or a vacuum.  I was
>>>>> really
>>>>> against using these devices, but in retrospect, her instincts were
>>>>> completely
>>>>> right - I managed to push him out 1 minute before the "deadline", and
>>>>> it was
>>>>> right in time.  His 1 minute apgar score (which takes into account
>>>>> vital
>>>>> signs) was very low, but luckily Dr. Guzelian had arranged for a team
>>>>> from
>>>>> pediatrics to be present for the birth, and she got my son out quickly
>>>>> and
>>>>> passed him right to them for resuscitation and suctioning.  Because of
>>>>> their
>>>>> quick and capable actions, in 5 minutes my son went from an apgar
>>>>> score of 3
>>>>> to a score of 9.  I was really hoping for a natural unmedicated birth
>>>>> during
>>>>> my pregnancy, but I am so thankful that I delivered at Brigham and
>>>>> Womens
>>>>> with
>>>>> an OB who knew what she was doing and with all the resources they have
>>>>> in
>>>>> case
>>>>> anything does go wrong.
>>>>>
>>>>> When I was pregnant I was a little jealous of everyone who got the
>>>>> midwife
>>>>> service through Mt. Auburn, and I was really worried about delivering
>>>>> at a
>>>>> hospital with so many high risk deliveries where I assumed they would
>>>>> shove
>>>>> interventions down my throat.  This is more for other parents on the
>>>>> list
>>>>> who
>>>>> have these concerns - Dr. Guzelian and my nurse were very supportive
>>>>> of my
>>>>> desires to have a natural childbirth.  I didn't end up needing pitocin
>>>>> (just
>>>>> waters broken), and they were happy about that, and totally willing to
>>>>> let
>>>>> me
>>>>> do my own thing and didn't once offer an epidural (because I told them
>>>>> not
>>>>> to
>>>>> offer - however, when I asked for one, I got it, and it was great!).
>>>>>
>>>>> I know no one wants to hear scary childbirth experience stories during
>>>>> pregnancy, and I'm sure everything will go great for you, but I just
>>>>> wanted
>>>>> to
>>>>> give my perspective.  Good luck and congratulations!
>>>>>
>>>>> Best,
>>>>> Meytal
>>>>> G6 in Earth and Planetary Sciences
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, Nov 18, 2008 at 9:46 AM, Finnian Mckean Moore Gerety
>>>>> <fmgerety at fas.harvard.edu> wrote:
>>>>>> Hello fellow parents and students--
>>>>>> My wife and I are six months pregnant and planning to deliver with
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> Brigham
>>>>>> and Women's group through HUHS. We have medical reasons for elective
>>>>>> C-section
>>>>>> and so we are in a position to choose the doctor who will do the
>>>>>> delivery.
>>>>>> I
>>>>>> wonder if anyone has a recommendation as to specific doctors or an
>>>>>> experience
>>>>>> to share about using this group. Any feedback, positive or negative,
>>>>>> would
>>>>>> be
>>>>>> appreciated.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>> Finn Moore Gerety
>>>>>> G2 Sanskrit & Indian Studies
>>>>>>
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>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>
>>
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Message: 4
Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2008 10:35:51 -0500 (EST)
From: Deborah Freedman Woods <dwoods at cfa.harvard.edu>
Subject: Re: [Parentsgroup-list] birth center and book
To: Nicole Flores <nflores at jd10.law.harvard.edu>
Cc: Parentsgroup-list at lists.hcs.harvard.edu
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I delivered my 2nd at Mt. Auburn last January with an OB
from Harvard Vanguard Medical Assoc.  Overall, the
experience was positive but not ideal.  The nursing staff
was fantastic -- attentive, supportive, and capable.  My OB
was reassuring and responsive to our wishes.  Fortunately
the delivery progressed smoothly, and there was no need to
consider any interventions.  The postpartum staff was
thoughtful and respected our wishes to be left alone as
much as possible.

The one BIG drawback was the wait and complications
associated with the epidural.  I had to wait about 2 1/2
hours from when I requested an epidural until the
anesthesiologist arrived.  The delivery ward was full,
but that was only half the reason for the long wait.  The
anesthesiologist had a lot of trouble putting it in
correctly. She didn't seem competent: it took her 30 min
and she hit a nerve, which hurt for several weeks after.

If not for the epidural, I would have been happy with my
experience at Mt. Auburn.

On a side note, Joy mentioned the lactation consultants and
breastfeeding support group at the Cambridge Birth Center.
The support group is open to anyone, no matter where you
deliver.  The lactation consultants are wonderful.  I esp.
love Kate, who runs the Thursday morning group.  It's a
really warm, supportive environment for nursing moms,
whether or not you need help with breastfeeding issues.

Good luck with your decision.

Best,
Deb Woods



On Tue, 18 Nov 2008, Nicole Flores wrote:

> Thank you, Joy, for the information.
>
> Has anyone else had any experiences (positive or negative) with
> delivering at Mount Auburn (particularly with the midwives practices)?
>
> -Nikki
>
> <-----Original Message----->
> >From: Joy Geren [joygeren at gmail.com]
> >Sent: 11/18/2008 3:01:35 PM
> >To: emilie.cappella at gmail.com
> >Cc: Parentsgroup-list at lists.hcs.harvard.edu
> >Subject: Re: [Parentsgroup-list] birth center and book
> >
> >I had my second at Cambridge Birth Center (had the first with the
> midwives at
> >Mt. Auburn). This was the ideal place for me and my family. Everyone
> was so
> >helpful and kind. They handled my pregnancy complications very
> professionally
> >and offered me the support I needed to stick to a natural birth plan
> despite
> >them. Everyone gets a free doula for the birth and to help at home
> afterwards if
> >you wish. I did face a bit of a problem during the birth, I started to
> pass out
> >when I was fully dialated.. They handled the situation with the calm
> and ease of
> >an ER staff but in the comfort of a bedroom. My baby never left me
> after the
> >delivery (no ankle tags or wheely carts needed), big brother came to
> see his
> >sister as soon as he woke up and our whole family, daddy included,
> could all
> >cuddle in bed together (siblings and others may attend the birth but I
> chose to
> >leave my 2 year old at home sleeping). I was home in less than 12 hours
> and
> >never missed a night of showering with my toddler or tucking him in
> bed. I have
> >also talked to 2 women who had to be transfered to the hospital when
> things
> >weren't going normally and both said they were quite pleased with the
> transfer
> >decision and the care they got at Cambridge hospital. Another perk is
> access to
> >the free sessions with certified lactation consultants offered 2
> mornings a
> >week. You can go as often as you need to get nursing help or to just
> visit other
> >moms who have very young babies.
> >
> >I liked Mt. Auburn and considered it a positive experience but there
> are certain
> >drawbacks to delivering in a hospital. For me these included catching a
> very
> >serious bacterial infection usually only contracted in hospitals (I had
> a
> >completely natural birth but contracted C. difficile and was very ill
> for
> >weeks). Also my husband and newborn were in the nursery for 3 hours
> shortly
> >after the birth. My baby was fine but there were others that needed
> urgent
> >attention so they just held my baby at the nursery while he waited for
> the
> >routine bathing, etc. I really did not like being alone, had no clue
> what was
> >happening with my baby and missed some critical bonding time despite
> the fact
> >that neither he nor I needed any urgent medical care. I loved the
> midwives of
> >Mt. Auburn but do not like that they have to catch babies in a
> hospital, having
> >a hosptial next door for emergencies was much better for us.
> >
> >Hope that helps!
> >Joy, G7 and mom to Toby 3yrs and Della 6m
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >On Tue, Nov 18, 2008 at 11:01 AM, milie cappella
> <emilie.cappella at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >Hi,
> >Does anyone have an experience at the Cambridge Birth Center that she
> would like
> >to share ? I'm due May 2nd and I wish to give birth there but I'm still
> >registered at the B&W Hospital.
> >By the way, I have read and liked "The happiest toddler on the block"
> for my
> >fist child and would like to know if "the happiest baby on the block"
> is good
> >too and if someone wants to sell his book to me.
> >Thanks !
> >Emilie Cappella
> >
> >
> >_______________________________________________
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> >Parentsgroup-list at lists.hcs.harvard.edu
> >http://lists.hcs.harvard.edu/mailman/listinfo/parentsgroup-list
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >--
> >Joy Geren, M.A.
> >Doctoral Candidate
> >Laboratory for Developmental Studies
> >Department of Psychology
> >Harvard University
>


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