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Wasti, Irana iwasti at mba2009.hbs.edu
Tue Nov 18 20:37:31 EST 2008


Hi,

I second the dislike for Dr. Mckelian - she delivered my son and it was a bad experience. He was positioned properly but she wasn't there for my pushing and then came after 3 hours of me pushing and told me I need c-section. After a routine c-section she told me I had excess loss of blood and need blood transfusion! (suggestion which we did not follow due to the obvious dangers of it).  Dr. Olson on one hand is brutally honest but he is an AMAZING doctor. I had complications and had to spend 10 days at the hospital and he was literally checking up on me all the time.  It felt like he was "cleaning up the mess' after McKelian.  He is a GREAT and very smart doctor and I came to appreciate his brutal honesty.

Good luck

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Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2008 12:47:56 -0500 (EST)
From: "Meeta Sharma Gupta" <meeta at eecs.harvard.edu>
Subject: Re: [Parentsgroup-list] OB/GYN at HUHS
To: "Debrah Rud" <debrah_rud at student.hms.harvard.edu>
Cc: Finnian Mckean Moore Gerety <fmgerety at fas.harvard.edu>,
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Hi Finn,

I had Dr. Susan Mikaelian throughout my pregnancy whom we really liked,
but my son was delivered by Dr. Goldman. I really liked him, he was quite
reassuring. I had a normal delivery but my progress was quite slow. He
tried to keep the situation light for me, and so everything went fine.
I agree it is a personal preference, I think you should meet up with the
doctors and go by your instinct.

Thanks,
Meeta

> Manjari (and all),
>
> Funny! Yes, certainly personal preference and experiences with the Drs
> make
> all the difference.
>
> Deb
>
>
>
> On 11/18/08 12:36 PM, "Manjari C. Miller" <mchatter at fas.harvard.edu>
> wrote:
>
>> Hey Deb (and Finn),
>>
>> Just had to chime in: I ultimately had John Goldman who I loved (calm,
>> reassuring) and Dr. Olson who I hated (I was in my 7th month, relieved
>> that everything was going well, said as much to Olson, who responded
>> that
>> you never know what might happen and that he had just that morning
>> attended the stillbirth of a woman who was 7 months pregnant--needless
>> to
>> say I was horrified and stressed out). Anyway the point being that an
>> Ob-gyn is a very personal preference--try all of them before you decide
>> on
>> one.
>>
>> Best,
>> Manjari
>>
>>
>> On Tue, 18 Nov 2008, Debrah Rud wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Finn,
>>>
>>> I agree that Dr. Guzelian is quite capable and has a great bedside
>>> manner.
>>> She did not deliver my son, but she was there at the very beginning of
>>> my
>>> labor. My son was delivered (9.5lbs, posterior, forceps delivery after
>>> 2
>>> hours of pushing) by Dr. Zinner, who is absolutely fantastic, but
>>> unfortunately she is no longer with the HUHS practice. I also liked Dr.
>>> Olson, who was my primary OB. He has a very calm and steady manner that
>>> I
>>> really appreciated. I did not like Dr. Goldman, can??t say exactly why,
>>> he
>>> just seemed a bit condescending ? he has a way of always saying ??we??
>>> -- ??How
>>> are we doing today???.  Anyway, personal preference I suppose.
>>>
>>> I agree with Meytal and have to say that I really was glad that my son
>>> was
>>> born at the Brigham. I labored unmedicated (until the forceps delivery)
>>> and
>>> pushed as long as they would let me but my poor ??little?? guy was face
>>> up and
>>> stuck against my pelvic bone. While the forceps delivery was really
>>> difficult for both my son and me, it was better than going for a
>>> c-section
>>> after he was lodged in my pelvis. I really felt that the Brigham
>>> allowed me
>>> to make my own decisions in terms of laboring naturally and then took
>>> the
>>> reigns when it became dangerous, and I really feel that in retrospect
>>> that I
>>> would not have been able to push him out without the aid of the
>>> forceps.
>>>
>>> Anyway, good luck to everyone expecting. So exciting!
>>>
>>> Debrah
>>> G6 PhD Program in Virology
>>> Mother of Jackson (almost 4!)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 11/18/08 11:07 AM, "Meytal Higgins" <budin at fas.harvard.edu> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi Finn,
>>>>
>>>> I have an 11 month old boy who was born at Brigham and Womens through
>>>> HUHS.
>>>> I
>>>> spent my entire pregnancy with HUHS, so I have interacted with all the
>>>> OBs
>>>> in
>>>> the practice, if you have specific questions about any of them.  While
>>>> I
>>>> didn't have a C section, I didn't have the smoothest delivery, so I
>>>> know how
>>>> my OB behaves when things go wrong.  I had a scheduled induction (10
>>>> days
>>>> post
>>>> due date) with my primary OB, Dr. Gail Guzelian, and I highly
>>>> recommend her.
>>>> My son had pooped in the womb, which in some cases signals fetal
>>>> distress,
>>>> and
>>>> I really appreciate how Dr. Guzelian handled the delivery, being
>>>> cautious
>>>> enough to be safe, yet not over paranoid.  He had a somewhat scary
>>>> birth
>>>> (cord
>>>> wrapped around the neck), and Dr. Guzelian told me that if he doesn't
>>>> come
>>>> out
>>>> by a certain time, she would bring out forceps or a vacuum.  I was
>>>> really
>>>> against using these devices, but in retrospect, her instincts were
>>>> completely
>>>> right - I managed to push him out 1 minute before the "deadline", and
>>>> it was
>>>> right in time.  His 1 minute apgar score (which takes into account
>>>> vital
>>>> signs) was very low, but luckily Dr. Guzelian had arranged for a team
>>>> from
>>>> pediatrics to be present for the birth, and she got my son out quickly
>>>> and
>>>> passed him right to them for resuscitation and suctioning.  Because of
>>>> their
>>>> quick and capable actions, in 5 minutes my son went from an apgar
>>>> score of 3
>>>> to a score of 9.  I was really hoping for a natural unmedicated birth
>>>> during
>>>> my pregnancy, but I am so thankful that I delivered at Brigham and
>>>> Womens
>>>> with
>>>> an OB who knew what she was doing and with all the resources they have
>>>> in
>>>> case
>>>> anything does go wrong.
>>>>
>>>> When I was pregnant I was a little jealous of everyone who got the
>>>> midwife
>>>> service through Mt. Auburn, and I was really worried about delivering
>>>> at a
>>>> hospital with so many high risk deliveries where I assumed they would
>>>> shove
>>>> interventions down my throat.  This is more for other parents on the
>>>> list
>>>> who
>>>> have these concerns - Dr. Guzelian and my nurse were very supportive
>>>> of my
>>>> desires to have a natural childbirth.  I didn't end up needing pitocin
>>>> (just
>>>> waters broken), and they were happy about that, and totally willing to
>>>> let
>>>> me
>>>> do my own thing and didn't once offer an epidural (because I told them
>>>> not
>>>> to
>>>> offer - however, when I asked for one, I got it, and it was great!).
>>>>
>>>> I know no one wants to hear scary childbirth experience stories during
>>>> pregnancy, and I'm sure everything will go great for you, but I just
>>>> wanted
>>>> to
>>>> give my perspective.  Good luck and congratulations!
>>>>
>>>> Best,
>>>> Meytal
>>>> G6 in Earth and Planetary Sciences
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Nov 18, 2008 at 9:46 AM, Finnian Mckean Moore Gerety
>>>> <fmgerety at fas.harvard.edu> wrote:
>>>>> Hello fellow parents and students--
>>>>> My wife and I are six months pregnant and planning to deliver with
>>>>> the
>>>>> Brigham
>>>>> and Women's group through HUHS. We have medical reasons for elective
>>>>> C-section
>>>>> and so we are in a position to choose the doctor who will do the
>>>>> delivery.
>>>>> I
>>>>> wonder if anyone has a recommendation as to specific doctors or an
>>>>> experience
>>>>> to share about using this group. Any feedback, positive or negative,
>>>>> would
>>>>> be
>>>>> appreciated.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks
>>>>> Finn Moore Gerety
>>>>> G2 Sanskrit & Indian Studies
>>>>>
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>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
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Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2008 10:29:50 -0800
From: "Michal Herzfeld" <mherzfeld at law.harvard.edu>
Subject: Re: [Parentsgroup-list] OB/GYN at HUHS
To: <meeta at eecs.harvard.edu>
Cc: fmgerety at fas.harvard.edu, parentsgroup-list at lists.hcs.harvard.edu,
        debrah_rud at student.hms.harvard.edu
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I also thought Dr. Goldman was very reassuring.  My husband and I met
all of the OBs and both hoped that Dr. Goldman would be at the delivery,
because he's very calm.  In the end, we had Dr. Karen Girard, who is
somehow affiliated with UHS but doesn't see patients for their routine
checkups at UHS.  I thought she was also very calm and reassuring,
although she may have been responsible for making a medical error during
the delivery that caused me to have to return to the emergency room 2
days after I was released.
Dr. Mikaelian might still be on maternity leave, but I didn't think she
was helpful at all.  She was impatient when addressing (or not) my
concerns, refused to write a prescription for me that I needed (so I had
to see another doctor to get it), and she was kind of condescending.
This might have been because she was quite pregnant when I delivered,
and was still doing shifts, so she was probably exhausted.
Hope this helps, and best of luck!

<-----Original Message----->

                 From: Meeta Sharma Gupta [meeta at eecs.harvard.edu]
Sent: 11/18/2008 12:47:56 PM
To: debrah_rud at student.hms.harvard.edu
Cc: fmgerety at fas.harvard.edu;parentsgroup-list at lists.hcs.harvard.edu
Subject: Re: [Parentsgroup-list] OB/GYN at HUHS =


Hi Finn, =


I had Dr. Susan Mikaelian throughout my pregnancy whom we really liked, =

but my son was delivered by Dr. Goldman. I really liked him, he was
quite =

reassuring. I had a normal delivery but my progress was quite slow. He =

tried to keep the situation light for me, and so everything went fine. =

I agree it is a personal preference, I think you should meet up with the
doctors and go by your instinct. =


Thanks, =

Meeta =


> Manjari (and all), =

> =

> Funny! Yes, certainly personal preference and experiences with the Drs
> make =

> all the difference. =

> =

> Deb =

> =

> =

> =

> On 11/18/08 12:36 PM, "Manjari C. Miller" <mchatter at fas.harvard.edu> =

> wrote: =

> =

>> Hey Deb (and Finn), =

>> =

>> Just had to chime in: I ultimately had John Goldman who I loved
(calm, =

>> reassuring) and Dr. Olson who I hated (I was in my 7th month,
relieved =

>> that everything was going well, said as much to Olson, who responded =

>> that =

>> you never know what might happen and that he had just that morning =

>> attended the stillbirth of a woman who was 7 months
pregnant--needless =

>> to =

>> say I was horrified and stressed out). Anyway the point being that an
>> Ob-gyn is a very personal preference--try all of them before you
decide =

>> on =

>> one. =

>> =

>> Best, =

>> Manjari =

>> =

>> =

>> On Tue, 18 Nov 2008, Debrah Rud wrote: =

>> =

>>> Hi Finn, =

>>> =

>>> I agree that Dr. Guzelian is quite capable and has a great bedside =

>>> manner. =

>>> She did not deliver my son, but she was there at the very beginning
of =

>>> my =

>>> labor. My son was delivered (9.5lbs, posterior, forceps delivery
after =

>>> 2 =

>>> hours of pushing) by Dr. Zinner, who is absolutely fantastic, but =

>>> unfortunately she is no longer with the HUHS practice. I also liked
Dr. =

>>> Olson, who was my primary OB. He has a very calm and steady manner
that =

>>> I =

>>> really appreciated. I did not like Dr. Goldman, cant say exactly
why, =

>>> he =

>>> just seemed a bit condescending ? he has a way of always saying we =

>>> -- How =

>>> are we doing today?. Anyway, personal preference I suppose. =

>>> =

>>> I agree with Meytal and have to say that I really was glad that my
son =

>>> was =

>>> born at the Brigham. I labored unmedicated (until the forceps
delivery) =

>>> and =

>>> pushed as long as they would let me but my poor little guy was face =

>>> up and =

>>> stuck against my pelvic bone. While the forceps delivery was really =

>>> difficult for both my son and me, it was better than going for a =

>>> c-section =

>>> after he was lodged in my pelvis. I really felt that the Brigham =

>>> allowed me =

>>> to make my own decisions in terms of laboring naturally and then
took =

>>> the =

>>> reigns when it became dangerous, and I really feel that in
retrospect =

>>> that I =

>>> would not have been able to push him out without the aid of the =

>>> forceps. =

>>> =

>>> Anyway, good luck to everyone expecting. So exciting! =

>>> =

>>> Debrah =

>>> G6 PhD Program in Virology =

>>> Mother of Jackson (almost 4!) =

>>> =

>>> =

>>> =

>>> =

>>> =

>>> =

>>> =

>>> =

>>> On 11/18/08 11:07 AM, "Meytal Higgins" <budin at fas.harvard.edu>
wrote: =

>>> =

>>>> Hi Finn, =

>>>> =

>>>> I have an 11 month old boy who was born at Brigham and Womens
through =

>>>> HUHS. =

>>>> I =

>>>> spent my entire pregnancy with HUHS, so I have interacted with all
the =

>>>> OBs =

>>>> in =

>>>> the practice, if you have specific questions about any of them.
While =

>>>> I =

>>>> didn't have a C section, I didn't have the smoothest delivery, so I
>>>> know how =

>>>> my OB behaves when things go wrong. I had a scheduled induction (10
>>>> days =

>>>> post =

>>>> due date) with my primary OB, Dr. Gail Guzelian, and I highly =

>>>> recommend her. =

>>>> My son had pooped in the womb, which in some cases signals fetal =

>>>> distress, =

>>>> and =

>>>> I really appreciate how Dr. Guzelian handled the delivery, being =

>>>> cautious =

>>>> enough to be safe, yet not over paranoid. He had a somewhat scary =

>>>> birth =

>>>> (cord =

>>>> wrapped around the neck), and Dr. Guzelian told me that if he
doesn't =

>>>> come =

>>>> out =

>>>> by a certain time, she would bring out forceps or a vacuum. I was =

>>>> really =

>>>> against using these devices, but in retrospect, her instincts were =

>>>> completely =

>>>> right - I managed to push him out 1 minute before the "deadline",
and =

>>>> it was =

>>>> right in time. His 1 minute apgar score (which takes into account =

>>>> vital =

>>>> signs) was very low, but luckily Dr. Guzelian had arranged for a
team =

>>>> from =

>>>> pediatrics to be present for the birth, and she got my son out
quickly =

>>>> and =

>>>> passed him right to them for resuscitation and suctioning. Because
of =

>>>> their =

>>>> quick and capable actions, in 5 minutes my son went from an apgar =

>>>> score of 3 =

>>>> to a score of 9. I was really hoping for a natural unmedicated
birth =

>>>> during =

>>>> my pregnancy, but I am so thankful that I delivered at Brigham and =

>>>> Womens =

>>>> with =

>>>> an OB who knew what she was doing and with all the resources they
have =

>>>> in =

>>>> case =

>>>> anything does go wrong. =

>>>> =

>>>> When I was pregnant I was a little jealous of everyone who got the =

>>>> midwife =

>>>> service through Mt. Auburn, and I was really worried about
delivering =

>>>> at a =

>>>> hospital with so many high risk deliveries where I assumed they
would =

>>>> shove =

>>>> interventions down my throat. This is more for other parents on the
>>>> list =

>>>> who =

>>>> have these concerns - Dr. Guzelian and my nurse were very
supportive =

>>>> of my =

>>>> desires to have a natural childbirth. I didn't end up needing
pitocin =

>>>> (just =

>>>> waters broken), and they were happy about that, and totally willing
to =

>>>> let =

>>>> me =

>>>> do my own thing and didn't once offer an epidural (because I told
them =

>>>> not =

>>>> to =

>>>> offer - however, when I asked for one, I got it, and it was
great!). =

>>>> =

>>>> I know no one wants to hear scary childbirth experience stories
during =

>>>> pregnancy, and I'm sure everything will go great for you, but I
just =

>>>> wanted =

>>>> to =

>>>> give my perspective. Good luck and congratulations! =

>>>> =

>>>> Best, =

>>>> Meytal =

>>>> G6 in Earth and Planetary Sciences =

>>>> =

>>>> =

>>>> =

>>>> On Tue, Nov 18, 2008 at 9:46 AM, Finnian Mckean Moore Gerety =

>>>> <fmgerety at fas.harvard.edu> wrote: =

>>>>> Hello fellow parents and students-- =

>>>>> My wife and I are six months pregnant and planning to deliver with
>>>>> the =

>>>>> Brigham =

>>>>> and Women's group through HUHS. We have medical reasons for
elective =

>>>>> C-section =

>>>>> and so we are in a position to choose the doctor who will do the =

>>>>> delivery. =

>>>>> I =

>>>>> wonder if anyone has a recommendation as to specific doctors or an
>>>>> experience =

>>>>> to share about using this group. Any feedback, positive or
negative, =

>>>>> would =

>>>>> be =

>>>>> appreciated. =

>>>>> =

>>>>> Thanks =

>>>>> Finn Moore Gerety =

>>>>> G2 Sanskrit & Indian Studies =

>>>>> =

>>>>> _______________________________________________ =

>>>>> Parentsgroup-list mailing list =

>>>>> Parentsgroup-list at lists.hcs.harvard.edu =

>>>>> http://lists.hcs.harvard.edu/mailman/listinfo/parentsgroup-list =

>>>>> =

>>>> =

>>>> =

>>> =

>>> =

> =

> =

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