[Parentsgroup-list] RE: Parentsgroup-list Digest, Vol 151, Issue 1

A.M. Cloutier amcloutier8 at hotmail.com
Wed Nov 7 09:13:08 EST 2007




HI there,
the acupuncturist that I see is in Western Mass, a long drive.  Her name is=
 Linda Robinson-Hidas and she is located in Amherst.  If you're really desp=
erate, definitely call and go see her.  413-253-2900  I called her for a re=
ferral out this way and she trained at =

http://www.nesa.edu/
she highly recommends it
hope this is helpful
Also, chinese medicine has a system of classifying foods "hot", "warm",  "n=
eutral", or "cold".  This is not as intuitive as it may sound.  I had a cha=
rt on my fridge for a long time and especially when we first started.  This=
 other way of looking at my child's diet was helpful in breaking the cycle.=
  You may want to ask about that as well.




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>    1. Re: ear infections and antibiotics (Irene Newton)
>    2. Re: ear infections and antibiotics (Miriam Shakow)
>    3. Re: ear infections and antibiotics (Miriam Shakow)
>    4. Re: ear infections and antibiotics (Marna Costanzo)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Tue, 6 Nov 2007 06:37:34 -0400
> From: "Irene Newton" <irene.newton at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Parentsgroup-list] ear infections and antibiotics
> To: "Melissa Wei-Tsing Inouye" <inouye at fas.harvard.edu>
> Cc: parentsgroup-list at lists.hcs.harvard.edu
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> Another witch-doctory-type solution, my grandmother (from the
> Dominican Republic) told me to put a slightly warmed solution of honey
> in my son's ears when he had an ear infection.  She insists that the
> pain is immediately gone but I never tried it.  With regards to
> antibiotics, we were prescribed some for my son's first ear infection
> but he seemed to be getting better over night (not crying as much and
> fever reduced) so we didn't give them to him.  Upon calling the doctor
> (Holtzman at UHS) subsequently, she said we were right not to give it
> to him since he was getting better on his own.  Obviously, unless they
> take a culture, they can't know if the infection is bacterial or viral
> and antibiotics, no matter how much pain the child is in, will not
> help with a viral infection.  Also, at least with our son, the side
> effects (oral yeast infections, diarrhea, upset stomach, vomitting)
> deter us from using these big guns against infections.
> =

> =

> On 11/6/07, Melissa Wei-Tsing Inouye <inouye at fas.harvard.edu> wrote:
> > This may be totally witch doctory -- I haven't tried it myself -- but
> > my friend Laura had a thirteen month old boy who had a really severe
> > ear infection that wasn't clearing up, and the only thing that worked
> > after whatever the doctor had prescribed had failed (the doctor
> > eventually said, Well, it's not really getting better, so we'll have
> > to put tubes in his ears) was ONION JUICE (you crush an onion and put
> > a few drops of the juice in the ear) and according to Laura, it
> > cleared right up.  Has anyone heard of this remedy for ear infections
> > before?
> >
> > Melissa
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> Message: 2
> Date: Tue, 06 Nov 2007 09:22:37 -0500
> From: Miriam Shakow <shakow at fas.harvard.edu>
> Subject: Re: [Parentsgroup-list] ear infections and antibiotics
> To: Irene Newton <irene.newton at gmail.com>
> Cc: parentsgroup-list at lists.hcs.harvard.edu
> Message-ID: <473078AD.9090809 at fas.harvard.edu>
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> Just to follow up on the honey suggestion, I have also heard from =3D
> =

> numerous sources that honey has antibiotic properties. Propolis lozenges =
=3D
> =

> and lotions, if they are available, are good, too.
> --Miriam Shakow
> =

> On 11/6/07 5:37 AM, Irene Newton wrote:
> > Another witch-doctory-type solution, my grandmother (from the
> > Dominican Republic) told me to put a slightly warmed solution of honey
> > in my son's ears when he had an ear infection.  She insists that the
> > pain is immediately gone but I never tried it.  With regards to
> > antibiotics, we were prescribed some for my son's first ear infection
> > but he seemed to be getting better over night (not crying as much and
> > fever reduced) so we didn't give them to him.  Upon calling the doctor
> > (Holtzman at UHS) subsequently, she said we were right not to give it
> > to him since he was getting better on his own.  Obviously, unless they
> > take a culture, they can't know if the infection is bacterial or viral
> > and antibiotics, no matter how much pain the child is in, will not
> > help with a viral infection.  Also, at least with our son, the side
> > effects (oral yeast infections, diarrhea, upset stomach, vomitting)
> > deter us from using these big guns against infections.
> >
> >
> > On 11/6/07, Melissa Wei-Tsing Inouye <inouye at fas.harvard.edu> wrote:
> >   =3D
> =

> >> This may be totally witch doctory -- I haven't tried it myself -- but
> >> my friend Laura had a thirteen month old boy who had a really severe
> >> ear infection that wasn't clearing up, and the only thing that worked
> >> after whatever the doctor had prescribed had failed (the doctor
> >> eventually said, Well, it's not really getting better, so we'll have
> >> to put tubes in his ears) was ONION JUICE (you crush an onion and put
> >> a few drops of the juice in the ear) and according to Laura, it
> >> cleared right up.  Has anyone heard of this remedy for ear infections
> >> before?
> >>
> >> Melissa
> >>
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> Message: 3
> Date: Tue, 06 Nov 2007 09:24:26 -0500
> From: Miriam Shakow <shakow at fas.harvard.edu>
> Subject: Re: [Parentsgroup-list] ear infections and antibiotics
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> Breast milk is widely reputed to have similar magical properties. (Sorry =

> to send multiple postings!)
> --Miriam
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> On 11/5/07 11:17 PM, Melissa Wei-Tsing Inouye wrote:
> > This may be totally witch doctory -- I haven't tried it myself -- but =

> > my friend Laura had a thirteen month old boy who had a really severe =

> > ear infection that wasn't clearing up, and the only thing that worked =

> > after whatever the doctor had prescribed had failed (the doctor =

> > eventually said, Well, it's not really getting better, so we'll have =

> > to put tubes in his ears) was ONION JUICE (you crush an onion and put =

> > a few drops of the juice in the ear) and according to Laura, it =

> > cleared right up.  Has anyone heard of this remedy for ear infections =

> > before?
> >
> > Melissa
> >
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> Message: 4
> Date: Tue, 6 Nov 2007 11:19:49 -0500
> From: "Marna Costanzo" <mcostanz at fas.harvard.edu>
> Subject: Re: [Parentsgroup-list] ear infections and antibiotics
> To: "Emily Qazilbash" <qazilbem at gse.harvard.edu>
> Cc: parentsgroup-list at lists.hcs.harvard.edu
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> Hi parents,
> =

> The way treatment with antibiotics should ideally work, is that it should=
 be
> confined only to bacterial infections.  Antibiotics are completely
> ineffective in purely viral infections.  The problem with blanket treating
> infections with antibiotics is that is may make future infections that are
> truly bacterial harder to treat.  Bacteria develop antibiotic resistance
> very quickly which would then require the more hard-core antibiotics for
> effective treatment, if they are available.  This is also the reason why =
you
> should always complete the entire course of antibiotics regardless of the
> presence of symptoms.
> =

> We work on the evolution of bacterial drug-resistance in our lab, so I ju=
st
> wanted to share so people would know why a pediatrician may be hesitant to
> prescribe antibiotics.  Of course, when your child is in pain, this may or
> may not seem more important than trying everything in your power to make
> them feel better.
> =

> Marna
> =

> On Nov 5, 2007 9:05 AM, Emily Qazilbash <qazilbem at gse.harvard.edu> wrote:
> =

> > Hi everyone,
> >
> > Our almost-4-year-old ended up in the ER after several hours of
> > unexplained (to us) screaming on
> > Sat. night, and it turns out she has an ear infection. She had no other
> > symptoms before this ER
> > trip, but then yesterday she developed the high fever, etc that often
> > comes with the virus that
> > might cause an ear infection.
> >
> > The ER doctor said he wouldn't recommend antibiotics to treat this ear
> > infection, and I remember
> > our pediatrician saying something a while ago about antibiotics sometim=
es
> > not being necessary.
> > We've only had one ear infection between our two kids, thankfully, so I
> > don't know much about
> > treatment options. We did give antibiotics for that one, three years ag=
o.
> >
> > I'm happy to not have our daughter on antibiotics, and she seems better
> > this morning after 24
> > hours of a high fever and pain. However, after googling the topic, I'm
> > just curious what others
> > have done. I know I can call our pediatrician and I may do that.
> >
> > Thanks!
> >
> > Emily Kalejs Qazilbash
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