[Parentsgroup-list] Vaccinations

Patricia Malone patriciamma at comcast.net
Wed Jun 28 07:54:14 EDT 2006

Dear Kirsten (and everyone else too, of course),

You ask for advice on a public forum, raise a question on an extremely =

controversial topic (one that has public health consequences and is =

therefore not merely personal), and get a response that you are not =

happy with. Not an overtly insulting or offensive response either, but =

an expression of one person's opinion.

You then shut down debate on the topic, while at the same time =

expressing your (inflexible) position on moral and political grounds.

I'd just like to say, interesting rhetorical strategy.

This forum has been a helpful source of information and support. But =

are we really barred from engaging in debate on such interesting =

issues? Especially if the arguments are conducted respectfully? (And I, =

for one, did not find Malcolm's comment disrespectful.) Obviously, we =

do not all share the same political convictions - my question is where, =

here in this forum, are the lines to be drawn?

Respectfully yours, (and I mean that!)

On Jun 28, 2006, at 3:05 AM, Jenny Kirsten Ataoguz wrote:

> Dear All,
> =A0
> I would just like to point out that I did not ask for advice on =

> whether or not to vaccinate my daughter.=A0 I believe that it is a =

> decision to be made by parents, in consultation with their doctor, if =

> they are lucky enough to find one who approaches the issue =

> critically.=A0 I do not appreciate exhortations from others, especially =

> on such a personal and delicate issue and on such a forum as this, =

> whose purpose is not the debate of such controversial topics.=A0 I =

> accept no one's proclamations unquestioningly, especially someone I =

> have never met and know nothing about.=A0 I asked the list because I =

> assumed that there would be some members=A0who approach vaccinations =

> more critically than others on it, and from them I wanted to hear.
> =A0
> yours,
> kirsten
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> Only read if you want more:
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> By the way, if we were to ask our doctor (we are now in Switzerland) =

> to give the MMR, Hib, or Hep B vaccines to our daughter, he would =

> refuse, as would most doctors here.=A0 No vaccines are required in =

> Switzerland, even to enter school or university, and there are no =

> major outbreaks here of any of these diseases.=A0 Switzerland is a =

> country with many regulations and with certain limitations on personal =

> freedom that America does not have, but the choice to vaccinate here =

> is a sacred right held by the parents.=A0 I will not cede that =

> right=A0when we return to the States, and thankfully I have already =

> found a pediatrician who shares our conviction.
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>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: Malcolm_Williams at ksg.harvard.edu
>> To: mgross at fas.harvard.edu
>> Cc: parentsgroup-list at toad.hcs.harvard.edu
>> Sent: Tuesday, June 27, 2006 6:55 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Parentsgroup-list] delead apartments/Cohousing...
>> I just want to add that buying a house/condo without a subsidy is =

>> also possible, but you might have to be willing to live outside of
>> Cambridge/Belmont. We bought a newly renovated, deleaded condo in =

>> Dorchester when I started school about 4 years ago.=A0 Out mortgage is =

>> probably
>> much less than most students pay for rent.=A0 Despite popular opinion, =

>> Dorchester has=A0some wonderful neighborhoods.=A0 We're blocks from the =

>> redline so
>> the commute to Cambridge is very easy (25 minutes).=A0 My wife works in =

>> Central Square and does it every day.=A0=A0My office is in Longwood so
>> I drop one of the kids at daycare in JP and walk=A0to work.=A0=A0
>> =A0
>> Also, please, please, please have your children vaccinated.=A0 It's not =

>> just for you, it's for me and my kids too.=A0 I can't stress enough how =

>> important
>> it is for you to do this.=A0 The risks that you take by not vaccinating =

>> far outweigh those posed by potential adverse reactions to the =

>> vaccines.
>> =A0
>> Malcolm
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