[hcs-d] ftp over tls

Saagar Deshpande sdeshpande at college.harvard.edu
Sun Dec 26 19:18:10 EST 2010


i used a lot of the free space expanding methods, so 10 gbs is enough
for me to back up most of the really important things. for big things
i have an external hdd

On Sun, Dec 26, 2010 at 7:05 PM, Jeremy Cushman <jscushman at gmail.com> wrote:
> I sync only my documents folder and put big stuff in another folder.  So no, I don't pay for extra space.
>
> On Dec 26, 2010, at 3:40 PM, Alex Leigh <leigh at hcs.harvard.edu> wrote:
>
>> For you guys who sync your entire homedirs to Dropbox, do you pay for
>> extra storage on Dropbox?
>>
>> On Sun, Dec 26, 2010 at 4:08 PM, Jim Danz <danz at fas.harvard.edu> wrote:
>>> AFAIK, there is no Linux client for Windows Mesh, so that rules it out for
>>> many of the folks who have responded thus far.
>>>
>>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>>> From: "S. Konda" <skonda at fas.harvard.edu>
>>> Date: Dec 26, 2010 10:30 AM
>>> Subject: Re: [hcs-d] ftp over tls
>>> To: "Jim Danz" <danz at fas.harvard.edu>
>>> Cc: "Jeremy Cushman" <jscushman at gmail.com>, "HCS Discuss"
>>> <hcs-discuss at hcs.harvard.edu>
>>>
>>> There may be good reasons why no one has suggested it (that I have failed to
>>> recognize), but I have found Windows Mesh to be absolutely phenomenal over
>>> the past few years as well.
>>>
>>> On Sun, Dec 26, 2010 at 2:28 AM, Jim Danz <danz at fas.harvard.edu> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Yeah, I have everything live in my Dropbox folder.
>>>> On Sat, Dec 25, 2010 at 11:12 PM, Jeremy Cushman <jscushman at gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> I symlinked in my whole Documents directory, so it backs it up
>>>>> automatically.  Works perfectly.
>>>>>
>>>>> Jeremy.
>>>>> On Dec 26, 2010, at 12:04 AM, Robert Nishihara
>>>>> <robertnishihara at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> For people that use dropbox, do you just make it your working directory
>>>>> (say replacing Documents)? Or do you manually stick important things in it?
>>>>> -Robert
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sat, Dec 25, 2010 at 9:39 PM, Jim Danz <danz at fas.harvard.edu> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Was about to link to that.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Also http://superuser.com/questions/71639/how-can-i-install-dropbox-without-root-priviledges
>>>>>> for more information.
>>>>>> This all may depend on your definition of "supported," though.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sat, Dec 25, 2010 at 6:38 PM, Zach Rait <rait at hcs.harvard.edu> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> http://wiki.dropbox.com/TipsAndTricks/TextBasedLinuxInstall
>>>>>>> On Sat, Dec 25, 2010 at 6:23 PM, Greg Brockman <gdb at hcs.harvard.edu>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Ok so the situation is, you have an account on lunar pages, and you
>>>>>>>> want to have automated backups of your files to some unspecified
>>>>>>>> off-site location?  First of all, you probably want to be maintaining
>>>>>>>> your code in an SCM like git, and have the canonical location of that
>>>>>>>> code be elsewhere (e.g. github).  For files you don't want to version
>>>>>>>> (e.g. database snapshots), you'll probably be happiest with a simple
>>>>>>>> scp/rsync-type solution.  You could set that up as a cron job on
>>>>>>>> either your shared host or your offsite location, as you prefer.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Jim: Is there a supported way of installing Dropbox without root?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Greg
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Sat, Dec 25, 2010 at 8:17 PM, Jim Danz <danz at fas.harvard.edu>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> If you can SSH, definitely rsync.
>>>>>>>>> If not, or regardless, I recommend trying Dropbox ( www.dropbox.com
>>>>>>>>> )
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Sat, Dec 25, 2010 at 6:12 PM, Robert Nishihara
>>>>>>>>> <robertnishihara at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Hey Greg,
>>>>>>>>>> So a while ago I wrote a script to backup my files. But I never
>>>>>>>>>> really
>>>>>>>>>> used it (other than backing up locally) because I didn't have
>>>>>>>>>> anywhere to
>>>>>>>>>> backup to. Since I have this account, I want to backup my files on
>>>>>>>>>> it, but I
>>>>>>>>>> don't want to use FTP.
>>>>>>>>>> -Robert
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, Dec 25, 2010 at 9:07 PM, Greg Brockman
>>>>>>>>>> <gdb at hcs.harvard.edu>
>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> WAYRTTD (what are you really trying to do)?  Are you trying to
>>>>>>>>>>> accept
>>>>>>>>>>> files from unauthenticated users on the internet (just use an HTML
>>>>>>>>>>> form over HTTPS)?  Are you trying to allow yourself and possibly
>>>>>>>>>>> other
>>>>>>>>>>> trusted users to upload files (use something like scp)?  Are you
>>>>>>>>>>> trying to upload your website to your shared host, who only
>>>>>>>>>>> provides
>>>>>>>>>>> an FTP interface (you probably want a different webhost :D)?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I haven't needed to use {S,}FTP for years, and unless you have a
>>>>>>>>>>> compelling reason to use them, I would steer clear.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Greg
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, Dec 25, 2010 at 8:04 PM, Carl Jackson
>>>>>>>>>>> <carl at hcs.harvard.edu>
>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> So there is a protocol called FTPS, but I don't really recommend
>>>>>>>>>>>> it. It
>>>>>>>>>>>> is,
>>>>>>>>>>>> AFAIK, secure though.
>>>>>>>>>>>> What site are you using for hosting? If you can ssh in, you can
>>>>>>>>>>>> sftp.
>>>>>>>>>>>> Carl
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Dec 25, 2010, at 9:02 PM, Robert Nishihara wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Hey Carl, so I know that SFTP is good. The webhosting site that
>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm
>>>>>>>>>>>> using
>>>>>>>>>>>> doesn't support SFTP as far as I can tell.
>>>>>>>>>>>> -Robert
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, Dec 25, 2010 at 9:01 PM, Carl Jackson
>>>>>>>>>>>> <carl at hcs.harvard.edu>
>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Use SFTP. It's typically bundled with ssh.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Carl
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Dec 25, 2010, at 8:59 PM, Robert Nishihara wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Can I use FTP over TLS to send sensitive files safely?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -Robert
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