[hcs-d] ftp over tls

Jeremy Cushman jscushman at gmail.com
Sun Dec 26 19:05:49 EST 2010


I sync only my documents folder and put big stuff in another folder.  So no, I don't pay for extra space.

On Dec 26, 2010, at 3:40 PM, Alex Leigh <leigh at hcs.harvard.edu> wrote:

> For you guys who sync your entire homedirs to Dropbox, do you pay for
> extra storage on Dropbox?
> 
> On Sun, Dec 26, 2010 at 4:08 PM, Jim Danz <danz at fas.harvard.edu> wrote:
>> AFAIK, there is no Linux client for Windows Mesh, so that rules it out for
>> many of the folks who have responded thus far.
>> 
>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>> From: "S. Konda" <skonda at fas.harvard.edu>
>> Date: Dec 26, 2010 10:30 AM
>> Subject: Re: [hcs-d] ftp over tls
>> To: "Jim Danz" <danz at fas.harvard.edu>
>> Cc: "Jeremy Cushman" <jscushman at gmail.com>, "HCS Discuss"
>> <hcs-discuss at hcs.harvard.edu>
>> 
>> There may be good reasons why no one has suggested it (that I have failed to
>> recognize), but I have found Windows Mesh to be absolutely phenomenal over
>> the past few years as well.
>> 
>> On Sun, Dec 26, 2010 at 2:28 AM, Jim Danz <danz at fas.harvard.edu> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Yeah, I have everything live in my Dropbox folder.
>>> On Sat, Dec 25, 2010 at 11:12 PM, Jeremy Cushman <jscushman at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> I symlinked in my whole Documents directory, so it backs it up
>>>> automatically.  Works perfectly.
>>>> 
>>>> Jeremy.
>>>> On Dec 26, 2010, at 12:04 AM, Robert Nishihara
>>>> <robertnishihara at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> For people that use dropbox, do you just make it your working directory
>>>> (say replacing Documents)? Or do you manually stick important things in it?
>>>> -Robert
>>>> 
>>>> On Sat, Dec 25, 2010 at 9:39 PM, Jim Danz <danz at fas.harvard.edu> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Was about to link to that.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Also http://superuser.com/questions/71639/how-can-i-install-dropbox-without-root-priviledges
>>>>> for more information.
>>>>> This all may depend on your definition of "supported," though.
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Sat, Dec 25, 2010 at 6:38 PM, Zach Rait <rait at hcs.harvard.edu> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> http://wiki.dropbox.com/TipsAndTricks/TextBasedLinuxInstall
>>>>>> On Sat, Dec 25, 2010 at 6:23 PM, Greg Brockman <gdb at hcs.harvard.edu>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Ok so the situation is, you have an account on lunar pages, and you
>>>>>>> want to have automated backups of your files to some unspecified
>>>>>>> off-site location?  First of all, you probably want to be maintaining
>>>>>>> your code in an SCM like git, and have the canonical location of that
>>>>>>> code be elsewhere (e.g. github).  For files you don't want to version
>>>>>>> (e.g. database snapshots), you'll probably be happiest with a simple
>>>>>>> scp/rsync-type solution.  You could set that up as a cron job on
>>>>>>> either your shared host or your offsite location, as you prefer.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Jim: Is there a supported way of installing Dropbox without root?
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Greg
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Sat, Dec 25, 2010 at 8:17 PM, Jim Danz <danz at fas.harvard.edu>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>> If you can SSH, definitely rsync.
>>>>>>>> If not, or regardless, I recommend trying Dropbox ( www.dropbox.com
>>>>>>>> )
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On Sat, Dec 25, 2010 at 6:12 PM, Robert Nishihara
>>>>>>>> <robertnishihara at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Hey Greg,
>>>>>>>>> So a while ago I wrote a script to backup my files. But I never
>>>>>>>>> really
>>>>>>>>> used it (other than backing up locally) because I didn't have
>>>>>>>>> anywhere to
>>>>>>>>> backup to. Since I have this account, I want to backup my files on
>>>>>>>>> it, but I
>>>>>>>>> don't want to use FTP.
>>>>>>>>> -Robert
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> On Sat, Dec 25, 2010 at 9:07 PM, Greg Brockman
>>>>>>>>> <gdb at hcs.harvard.edu>
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> WAYRTTD (what are you really trying to do)?  Are you trying to
>>>>>>>>>> accept
>>>>>>>>>> files from unauthenticated users on the internet (just use an HTML
>>>>>>>>>> form over HTTPS)?  Are you trying to allow yourself and possibly
>>>>>>>>>> other
>>>>>>>>>> trusted users to upload files (use something like scp)?  Are you
>>>>>>>>>> trying to upload your website to your shared host, who only
>>>>>>>>>> provides
>>>>>>>>>> an FTP interface (you probably want a different webhost :D)?
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> I haven't needed to use {S,}FTP for years, and unless you have a
>>>>>>>>>> compelling reason to use them, I would steer clear.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Greg
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, Dec 25, 2010 at 8:04 PM, Carl Jackson
>>>>>>>>>> <carl at hcs.harvard.edu>
>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> So there is a protocol called FTPS, but I don't really recommend
>>>>>>>>>>> it. It
>>>>>>>>>>> is,
>>>>>>>>>>> AFAIK, secure though.
>>>>>>>>>>> What site are you using for hosting? If you can ssh in, you can
>>>>>>>>>>> sftp.
>>>>>>>>>>> Carl
>>>>>>>>>>> On Dec 25, 2010, at 9:02 PM, Robert Nishihara wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Hey Carl, so I know that SFTP is good. The webhosting site that
>>>>>>>>>>> I'm
>>>>>>>>>>> using
>>>>>>>>>>> doesn't support SFTP as far as I can tell.
>>>>>>>>>>> -Robert
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, Dec 25, 2010 at 9:01 PM, Carl Jackson
>>>>>>>>>>> <carl at hcs.harvard.edu>
>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Use SFTP. It's typically bundled with ssh.
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Carl
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Dec 25, 2010, at 8:59 PM, Robert Nishihara wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Can I use FTP over TLS to send sensitive files safely?
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> -Robert
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