[hcs-d] ftp over tls

Alex Leigh leigh at hcs.harvard.edu
Sun Dec 26 17:40:13 EST 2010


For you guys who sync your entire homedirs to Dropbox, do you pay for
extra storage on Dropbox?

On Sun, Dec 26, 2010 at 4:08 PM, Jim Danz <danz at fas.harvard.edu> wrote:
> AFAIK, there is no Linux client for Windows Mesh, so that rules it out for
> many of the folks who have responded thus far.
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: "S. Konda" <skonda at fas.harvard.edu>
> Date: Dec 26, 2010 10:30 AM
> Subject: Re: [hcs-d] ftp over tls
> To: "Jim Danz" <danz at fas.harvard.edu>
> Cc: "Jeremy Cushman" <jscushman at gmail.com>, "HCS Discuss"
> <hcs-discuss at hcs.harvard.edu>
>
> There may be good reasons why no one has suggested it (that I have failed to
> recognize), but I have found Windows Mesh to be absolutely phenomenal over
> the past few years as well.
>
> On Sun, Dec 26, 2010 at 2:28 AM, Jim Danz <danz at fas.harvard.edu> wrote:
>>
>> Yeah, I have everything live in my Dropbox folder.
>> On Sat, Dec 25, 2010 at 11:12 PM, Jeremy Cushman <jscushman at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> I symlinked in my whole Documents directory, so it backs it up
>>> automatically.  Works perfectly.
>>>
>>> Jeremy.
>>> On Dec 26, 2010, at 12:04 AM, Robert Nishihara
>>> <robertnishihara at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> For people that use dropbox, do you just make it your working directory
>>> (say replacing Documents)? Or do you manually stick important things in it?
>>> -Robert
>>>
>>> On Sat, Dec 25, 2010 at 9:39 PM, Jim Danz <danz at fas.harvard.edu> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Was about to link to that.
>>>>
>>>> Also http://superuser.com/questions/71639/how-can-i-install-dropbox-without-root-priviledges
>>>> for more information.
>>>> This all may depend on your definition of "supported," though.
>>>>
>>>> On Sat, Dec 25, 2010 at 6:38 PM, Zach Rait <rait at hcs.harvard.edu> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> http://wiki.dropbox.com/TipsAndTricks/TextBasedLinuxInstall
>>>>> On Sat, Dec 25, 2010 at 6:23 PM, Greg Brockman <gdb at hcs.harvard.edu>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Ok so the situation is, you have an account on lunar pages, and you
>>>>>> want to have automated backups of your files to some unspecified
>>>>>> off-site location?  First of all, you probably want to be maintaining
>>>>>> your code in an SCM like git, and have the canonical location of that
>>>>>> code be elsewhere (e.g. github).  For files you don't want to version
>>>>>> (e.g. database snapshots), you'll probably be happiest with a simple
>>>>>> scp/rsync-type solution.  You could set that up as a cron job on
>>>>>> either your shared host or your offsite location, as you prefer.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Jim: Is there a supported way of installing Dropbox without root?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Greg
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sat, Dec 25, 2010 at 8:17 PM, Jim Danz <danz at fas.harvard.edu>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> > If you can SSH, definitely rsync.
>>>>>> > If not, or regardless, I recommend trying Dropbox ( www.dropbox.com
>>>>>> > )
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > On Sat, Dec 25, 2010 at 6:12 PM, Robert Nishihara
>>>>>> > <robertnishihara at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >> Hey Greg,
>>>>>> >> So a while ago I wrote a script to backup my files. But I never
>>>>>> >> really
>>>>>> >> used it (other than backing up locally) because I didn't have
>>>>>> >> anywhere to
>>>>>> >> backup to. Since I have this account, I want to backup my files on
>>>>>> >> it, but I
>>>>>> >> don't want to use FTP.
>>>>>> >> -Robert
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >> On Sat, Dec 25, 2010 at 9:07 PM, Greg Brockman
>>>>>> >> <gdb at hcs.harvard.edu>
>>>>>> >> wrote:
>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>> >>> WAYRTTD (what are you really trying to do)?  Are you trying to
>>>>>> >>> accept
>>>>>> >>> files from unauthenticated users on the internet (just use an HTML
>>>>>> >>> form over HTTPS)?  Are you trying to allow yourself and possibly
>>>>>> >>> other
>>>>>> >>> trusted users to upload files (use something like scp)?  Are you
>>>>>> >>> trying to upload your website to your shared host, who only
>>>>>> >>> provides
>>>>>> >>> an FTP interface (you probably want a different webhost :D)?
>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>> >>> I haven't needed to use {S,}FTP for years, and unless you have a
>>>>>> >>> compelling reason to use them, I would steer clear.
>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>> >>> Greg
>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>> >>> On Sat, Dec 25, 2010 at 8:04 PM, Carl Jackson
>>>>>> >>> <carl at hcs.harvard.edu>
>>>>>> >>> wrote:
>>>>>> >>> > So there is a protocol called FTPS, but I don't really recommend
>>>>>> >>> > it. It
>>>>>> >>> > is,
>>>>>> >>> > AFAIK, secure though.
>>>>>> >>> > What site are you using for hosting? If you can ssh in, you can
>>>>>> >>> > sftp.
>>>>>> >>> > Carl
>>>>>> >>> > On Dec 25, 2010, at 9:02 PM, Robert Nishihara wrote:
>>>>>> >>> >
>>>>>> >>> > Hey Carl, so I know that SFTP is good. The webhosting site that
>>>>>> >>> > I'm
>>>>>> >>> > using
>>>>>> >>> > doesn't support SFTP as far as I can tell.
>>>>>> >>> > -Robert
>>>>>> >>> >
>>>>>> >>> > On Sat, Dec 25, 2010 at 9:01 PM, Carl Jackson
>>>>>> >>> > <carl at hcs.harvard.edu>
>>>>>> >>> > wrote:
>>>>>> >>> >>
>>>>>> >>> >> Use SFTP. It's typically bundled with ssh.
>>>>>> >>> >>
>>>>>> >>> >> Carl
>>>>>> >>> >>
>>>>>> >>> >> On Dec 25, 2010, at 8:59 PM, Robert Nishihara wrote:
>>>>>> >>> >>
>>>>>> >>> >> > Can I use FTP over TLS to send sensitive files safely?
>>>>>> >>> >> >
>>>>>> >>> >> > -Robert
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