[hcs-d] ftp over tls

S. Konda skonda at fas.harvard.edu
Sun Dec 26 13:30:22 EST 2010


There may be good reasons why no one has suggested it (that I have failed to
recognize), but I have found Windows Mesh to be absolutely phenomenal over
the past few years as well.

On Sun, Dec 26, 2010 at 2:28 AM, Jim Danz <danz at fas.harvard.edu> wrote:

> Yeah, I have everything live in my Dropbox folder.
>
> On Sat, Dec 25, 2010 at 11:12 PM, Jeremy Cushman <jscushman at gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> I symlinked in my whole Documents directory, so it backs it up
>> automatically.  Works perfectly.
>>
>> Jeremy.
>>
>> On Dec 26, 2010, at 12:04 AM, Robert Nishihara <robertnishihara at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> For people that use dropbox, do you just make it your working directory
>> (say replacing Documents)? Or do you manually stick important things in it?
>>
>> -Robert
>>
>> On Sat, Dec 25, 2010 at 9:39 PM, Jim Danz < <danz at fas.harvard.edu>
>> danz at fas.harvard.edu> wrote:
>>
>>> Was about to link to that.
>>> Also <http://superuser.com/questions/71639/how-can-i-install-dropbox-without-root-priviledges>
>>> http://superuser.com/questions/71639/how-can-i-install-dropbox-without-root-priviledgesfor more information.
>>>
>>> This all may depend on your definition of "supported," though.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sat, Dec 25, 2010 at 6:38 PM, Zach Rait < <rait at hcs.harvard.edu>
>>> rait at hcs.harvard.edu> wrote:
>>>
>>>> <http://wiki.dropbox.com/TipsAndTricks/TextBasedLinuxInstall>
>>>> http://wiki.dropbox.com/TipsAndTricks/TextBasedLinuxInstall
>>>>
>>>> On Sat, Dec 25, 2010 at 6:23 PM, Greg Brockman < <gdb at hcs.harvard.edu>
>>>> gdb at hcs.harvard.edu> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Ok so the situation is, you have an account on lunar pages, and you
>>>>> want to have automated backups of your files to some unspecified
>>>>> off-site location?  First of all, you probably want to be maintaining
>>>>> your code in an SCM like git, and have the canonical location of that
>>>>> code be elsewhere (e.g. github).  For files you don't want to version
>>>>> (e.g. database snapshots), you'll probably be happiest with a simple
>>>>> scp/rsync-type solution.  You could set that up as a cron job on
>>>>> either your shared host or your offsite location, as you prefer.
>>>>>
>>>>> Jim: Is there a supported way of installing Dropbox without root?
>>>>>
>>>>> Greg
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sat, Dec 25, 2010 at 8:17 PM, Jim Danz < <danz at fas.harvard.edu>
>>>>> danz at fas.harvard.edu> wrote:
>>>>> > If you can SSH, definitely rsync.
>>>>> > If not, or regardless, I recommend trying Dropbox (
>>>>> <http://www.dropbox.com>www.dropbox.com )
>>>>> >
>>>>> > On Sat, Dec 25, 2010 at 6:12 PM, Robert Nishihara
>>>>> > < <robertnishihara at gmail.com>robertnishihara at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> Hey Greg,
>>>>> >> So a while ago I wrote a script to backup my files. But I never
>>>>> really
>>>>> >> used it (other than backing up locally) because I didn't have
>>>>> anywhere to
>>>>> >> backup to. Since I have this account, I want to backup my files on
>>>>> it, but I
>>>>> >> don't want to use FTP.
>>>>> >> -Robert
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> On Sat, Dec 25, 2010 at 9:07 PM, Greg Brockman <<gdb at hcs.harvard.edu>
>>>>> gdb at hcs.harvard.edu>
>>>>> >> wrote:
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>> WAYRTTD (what are you really trying to do)?  Are you trying to
>>>>> accept
>>>>> >>> files from unauthenticated users on the internet (just use an HTML
>>>>> >>> form over HTTPS)?  Are you trying to allow yourself and possibly
>>>>> other
>>>>> >>> trusted users to upload files (use something like scp)?  Are you
>>>>> >>> trying to upload your website to your shared host, who only
>>>>> provides
>>>>> >>> an FTP interface (you probably want a different webhost :D)?
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>> I haven't needed to use {S,}FTP for years, and unless you have a
>>>>> >>> compelling reason to use them, I would steer clear.
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>> Greg
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>> On Sat, Dec 25, 2010 at 8:04 PM, Carl Jackson <<carl at hcs.harvard.edu>
>>>>> carl at hcs.harvard.edu>
>>>>> >>> wrote:
>>>>> >>> > So there is a protocol called FTPS, but I don't really recommend
>>>>> it. It
>>>>> >>> > is,
>>>>> >>> > AFAIK, secure though.
>>>>> >>> > What site are you using for hosting? If you can ssh in, you can
>>>>> sftp.
>>>>> >>> > Carl
>>>>> >>> > On Dec 25, 2010, at 9:02 PM, Robert Nishihara wrote:
>>>>> >>> >
>>>>> >>> > Hey Carl, so I know that SFTP is good. The webhosting site that
>>>>> I'm
>>>>> >>> > using
>>>>> >>> > doesn't support SFTP as far as I can tell.
>>>>> >>> > -Robert
>>>>> >>> >
>>>>> >>> > On Sat, Dec 25, 2010 at 9:01 PM, Carl Jackson <<carl at hcs.harvard.edu>
>>>>> carl at hcs.harvard.edu>
>>>>> >>> > wrote:
>>>>> >>> >>
>>>>> >>> >> Use SFTP. It's typically bundled with ssh.
>>>>> >>> >>
>>>>> >>> >> Carl
>>>>> >>> >>
>>>>> >>> >> On Dec 25, 2010, at 8:59 PM, Robert Nishihara wrote:
>>>>> >>> >>
>>>>> >>> >> > Can I use FTP over TLS to send sensitive files safely?
>>>>> >>> >> >
>>>>> >>> >> > -Robert
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