[hcs-d] ftp over tls

Jim Danz danz at fas.harvard.edu
Sun Dec 26 02:28:15 EST 2010


Yeah, I have everything live in my Dropbox folder.

On Sat, Dec 25, 2010 at 11:12 PM, Jeremy Cushman <jscushman at gmail.com>wrote:

> I symlinked in my whole Documents directory, so it backs it up
> automatically.  Works perfectly.
>
> Jeremy.
>
> On Dec 26, 2010, at 12:04 AM, Robert Nishihara <robertnishihara at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> For people that use dropbox, do you just make it your working directory
> (say replacing Documents)? Or do you manually stick important things in it?
>
> -Robert
>
> On Sat, Dec 25, 2010 at 9:39 PM, Jim Danz < <danz at fas.harvard.edu>
> danz at fas.harvard.edu> wrote:
>
>> Was about to link to that.
>> Also <http://superuser.com/questions/71639/how-can-i-install-dropbox-without-root-priviledges>
>> http://superuser.com/questions/71639/how-can-i-install-dropbox-without-root-priviledgesfor more information.
>>
>> This all may depend on your definition of "supported," though.
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Dec 25, 2010 at 6:38 PM, Zach Rait < <rait at hcs.harvard.edu>
>> rait at hcs.harvard.edu> wrote:
>>
>>> <http://wiki.dropbox.com/TipsAndTricks/TextBasedLinuxInstall>
>>> http://wiki.dropbox.com/TipsAndTricks/TextBasedLinuxInstall
>>>
>>> On Sat, Dec 25, 2010 at 6:23 PM, Greg Brockman < <gdb at hcs.harvard.edu>
>>> gdb at hcs.harvard.edu> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Ok so the situation is, you have an account on lunar pages, and you
>>>> want to have automated backups of your files to some unspecified
>>>> off-site location?  First of all, you probably want to be maintaining
>>>> your code in an SCM like git, and have the canonical location of that
>>>> code be elsewhere (e.g. github).  For files you don't want to version
>>>> (e.g. database snapshots), you'll probably be happiest with a simple
>>>> scp/rsync-type solution.  You could set that up as a cron job on
>>>> either your shared host or your offsite location, as you prefer.
>>>>
>>>> Jim: Is there a supported way of installing Dropbox without root?
>>>>
>>>> Greg
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Sat, Dec 25, 2010 at 8:17 PM, Jim Danz < <danz at fas.harvard.edu>
>>>> danz at fas.harvard.edu> wrote:
>>>> > If you can SSH, definitely rsync.
>>>> > If not, or regardless, I recommend trying Dropbox (
>>>> <http://www.dropbox.com>www.dropbox.com )
>>>> >
>>>> > On Sat, Dec 25, 2010 at 6:12 PM, Robert Nishihara
>>>> > < <robertnishihara at gmail.com>robertnishihara at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Hey Greg,
>>>> >> So a while ago I wrote a script to backup my files. But I never
>>>> really
>>>> >> used it (other than backing up locally) because I didn't have
>>>> anywhere to
>>>> >> backup to. Since I have this account, I want to backup my files on
>>>> it, but I
>>>> >> don't want to use FTP.
>>>> >> -Robert
>>>> >>
>>>> >> On Sat, Dec 25, 2010 at 9:07 PM, Greg Brockman <<gdb at hcs.harvard.edu>
>>>> gdb at hcs.harvard.edu>
>>>> >> wrote:
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> WAYRTTD (what are you really trying to do)?  Are you trying to
>>>> accept
>>>> >>> files from unauthenticated users on the internet (just use an HTML
>>>> >>> form over HTTPS)?  Are you trying to allow yourself and possibly
>>>> other
>>>> >>> trusted users to upload files (use something like scp)?  Are you
>>>> >>> trying to upload your website to your shared host, who only provides
>>>> >>> an FTP interface (you probably want a different webhost :D)?
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> I haven't needed to use {S,}FTP for years, and unless you have a
>>>> >>> compelling reason to use them, I would steer clear.
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> Greg
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> On Sat, Dec 25, 2010 at 8:04 PM, Carl Jackson <<carl at hcs.harvard.edu>
>>>> carl at hcs.harvard.edu>
>>>> >>> wrote:
>>>> >>> > So there is a protocol called FTPS, but I don't really recommend
>>>> it. It
>>>> >>> > is,
>>>> >>> > AFAIK, secure though.
>>>> >>> > What site are you using for hosting? If you can ssh in, you can
>>>> sftp.
>>>> >>> > Carl
>>>> >>> > On Dec 25, 2010, at 9:02 PM, Robert Nishihara wrote:
>>>> >>> >
>>>> >>> > Hey Carl, so I know that SFTP is good. The webhosting site that
>>>> I'm
>>>> >>> > using
>>>> >>> > doesn't support SFTP as far as I can tell.
>>>> >>> > -Robert
>>>> >>> >
>>>> >>> > On Sat, Dec 25, 2010 at 9:01 PM, Carl Jackson <<carl at hcs.harvard.edu>
>>>> carl at hcs.harvard.edu>
>>>> >>> > wrote:
>>>> >>> >>
>>>> >>> >> Use SFTP. It's typically bundled with ssh.
>>>> >>> >>
>>>> >>> >> Carl
>>>> >>> >>
>>>> >>> >> On Dec 25, 2010, at 8:59 PM, Robert Nishihara wrote:
>>>> >>> >>
>>>> >>> >> > Can I use FTP over TLS to send sensitive files safely?
>>>> >>> >> >
>>>> >>> >> > -Robert
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