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Mon Nov 16 20:59:58 EST 2009


to certify, anyway.<br>
<br>
Just wondering: what was the attendance? Was Sever 113 full?<br>
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On Tue, Nov 24, 2009 at 3:46 AM, Jeremy Cushman &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:jscus=
hman at gmail.com">jscushman at gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
&gt; So they basically debated it for an hour and a half, with 4 or 5 peopl=
e<br>
&gt; saying that it could be corrupt and the rest of the room getting mad a=
t<br>
&gt; them.=A0 FAS-IT prepared a long statement in which they said that they=
 had<br>
&gt; found no evidence of vote tampering after 4 of them (!) spent the enti=
re day<br>
&gt; (!) probing it.=A0 That apparently wasn&#39;t enough for some people, =
who were<br>
&gt; going on about how if the hackers had been really skillful they would =
have<br>
&gt; erased any log of them being in the system and then we&#39;d be back w=
here we<br>
&gt; started, etc. etc.=A0 There was no HCS input, and it became quite unne=
cessary<br>
&gt; anyway after it was clear that they were ready to certify the results =
of the<br>
&gt; election.=A0 In the actual vote, every member of the UC voted to certi=
fy the<br>
&gt; results except the election committee members (who abstained) and Hayw=
ard<br>
&gt; and Zhang (sore losers?).=A0 I think it would have been better for the=
 UC as a<br>
&gt; whole and better for their image if Hayward and Zhang had conceded and=
 voted<br>
&gt; to certify.=A0 Just my opinion :-)<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Jeremy<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; On Tue, Nov 24, 2009 at 2:57 AM, Alex Li &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:li at hcs.=
harvard.edu">li at hcs.harvard.edu</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; How did this turn out? Looks like they are going to certify the<br=
>
&gt;&gt; results. Was that with the input of HCS people? Also I noticed a<b=
r>
&gt;&gt; reference to &quot;information technology specialists&quot; in the=
 email the UC<br>
&gt;&gt; sent out about the townhall meeting, I wonder if that&#39;s a refe=
rence to<br>
&gt;&gt; the HCS people, haha.<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; Alex<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; On Mon, Nov 23, 2009 at 5:27 PM, Jeremy Cushman &lt;<a href=3D"mai=
lto:jscushman at gmail.com">jscushman at gmail.com</a>&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; wrote:<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt; I&#39;ll be attending either way, and I&#39;m happy to help o=
ut with any<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt; presentation and/or research you guys are doing.<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt; Jeremy (the other Jeremy)<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt; On Mon, Nov 23, 2009 at 2:58 PM, Jeremy Hoon &lt;<a href=3D"m=
ailto:jeremy.d.hoon at gmail.com">jeremy.d.hoon at gmail.com</a>&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt; wrote:<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; Hello HCS,<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; I was just asked by Andrea Flores, the current UC preside=
nt, if a few<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; of<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; us could stop by a UC meeting tonight to discuss the tech=
 issues<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; surrounding<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; the election debacle. I think we can agree that vote tamp=
ering is<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; unlikely<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; for the following reasons:<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; - Brad verified the results (unfortunately it appears tha=
t for<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; political<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; reasons this rationale is not being accepted by certain p=
arties).<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; - Candidates did not have access to the voting applicatio=
n.<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; - It would have been very difficult to hack the voting ap=
plication.<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; - The final vote total was very close. It seems unlikely =
that an<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; attacker<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; could have manipulated the votes with the precision neces=
sary to<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; achieve<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; only a slim margin of victory.<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; It might make sense to discuss the voting software implem=
entation<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; on-list<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; beforehand. Does anyone know if/where it lives in SVN?<br=
>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; Brad, I assume you are on this list (if not, could someon=
e please<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; forward<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; him this message). You are obviously the number one autho=
rity on this<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; subject, and your input would be invaluable.<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; The meeting is tonight at 7:30 in Sever 113. Please respo=
nd on-list if<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; you<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; plan to attend. A group of 2-3 people would be ideal.<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; Jeremy<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;<br>
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