[hcs-d] Webmail

Jason Gao jasongao.root at gmail.com
Thu Oct 30 12:59:42 EDT 2008

The M2W website doesn't inspire confidence, but I'd guess FAS-IT went
with them for flexibility; they're probably the most willing to
accommodate whatever FAS-IT is asking.

Their business website hasn't made a press release since Nov 2007,
though (http://www.mail2world.net).

On Thu, Oct 30, 2008 at 12:54 PM, Keito Uchiyama <keito at hcs.harvard.edu> wrote:
> That's unfortunate even MIT is moving to a hosted system.
> The question, then, is whether the system the College is using is actually
> going to be reliable. The company FAS-IT seems to have gone for is
> Mail2World (http://www.mail2world.com/). Their website makes some exciting
> claims (ooh, I can haz IMAP support for $20 a month?!), but has anybody
> heard of them before?
> After all, this is the company whose Wikipedia article ("Mail2world") was
> deleted on the spot last November for being non-notable advertising (the
> article itself was created by user "M2W", which, to any Wikipedian, screams
> "self promotion!"). Sadly, the same account recreated the article under a
> different name ("Mail2World") less than a month later, and the article
> hasn't had any actual content edits by anybody else since the original edit
> that created it.
> I'm not saying Wikipedia should be an indicator of anything; but frankly, I
> can't really entrust my own e-mail to an 8-year old Internet company that
> hasn't managed to become notable enough for anybody other than what appears
> to be its agents to edit its Wikipedia article, let alone the mail for an
> entire college.
> What do others think?
> Keito U.
> On Oct 30, 2008, at 09:26, Quentin Smith wrote:
>> On Thu, 30 Oct 2008, Joshua Kroll wrote:
>>> On Thu, Oct 30, 2008 at 8:54 AM, Quentin Smith <quentin at mit.edu> wrote:
>>>> On Thu, 30 Oct 2008, Bruno Afonso wrote:
>>>>> - harvard would never be able to give to their students 5gig emails
>>>>> anytime in the near future. outsourcing would be the only way.
>>>> MIT does their own mail hosting. Our quotas are currently 1GB by default
>>>> and
>>>> 2GB for the asking; it's totally plausible to have 5GB quotas on
>>>> self-hosted
>>>> mail.
>>> I agree with Quentin. Let us do a small calculation:
>>> There are, I think, about 10,000 FAS users (does anyone know?). If
>>> they each had a 5GB quota, we would need about 50 TB of storage plus
>>> maybe the same amount for backup/mirroring. If we assume Harvard is
>>> smart enough to figure out how to buy this equipment for $0.50/GB (HCS
>>> just bought 24 TB at $0.56/GB), they would only need to spend about
>>> $50,000 on equipment. Now, they would have to spend money on staff
>>> time to install/configure/maintain this equipment, but I'll bet you it
>>> would even have been CHEAPER than the outsourcing.
>>> Please quibble with my figures if you think they're off.
>> I think you're making the big assumption that each user is actually going
>> to use their full quota. It's more likely than with generic file storage,
>> maybe, but I still doubt most users are going to fill their quota. You can
>> probably knock 50% or more off the requirements. (Though, honestly, $50k vs.
>> $25k is probably about the same for an organization the size of Harvard)
>> Also, note that MIT has at least 20,000 accounts, all with >1GB mail
>> service.
>> Unfortunately, MIT is also currently looking into moving into some kind of
>> hosted system. They seem to have already dismissed most of the big names,
>> and they're currently running a pilot of... Exchange.
>> --Quentin
>>> Josh
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